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FLAT BATTLES 2013 CANCELLED
« on: May 11, 2013, 07:35:25 PM »
I would like to announce that there will be no Online Flat Battles this year.

Since last competition, the interest has only reduced, so that is why it won't happen, just with a little hope for next year.

RIDE HARD. HAVE FUN.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 10:09:05 PM by ondo »

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 07:50:20 PM »
The rules:

Sign up

* To participate in a online battle round, you must be signed up.
* To do that, you must send in a qualification video in the sign up active period.
* The qualification video must not be longer than 50 seconds. (check other video rules)
* The qualification video will be used to evaluate your skill level and be signed up for the right group.
* The video will be used in the first battle. Rider can't change the content of it anymore.
* Video link has to be sent to online battle organizer ondo via personal message
* Ondo has the rights not to allow a rider to sign up, if he's going for a class which is too low for his skill level based on qualification video and/or other his videos online.
* Ondo has the right to disqualify a rider if there are any thoughts of entering a weaker class on purpose.
* Disobeying these rules and/or making false weak qualification video will result in disqualification.
* Sign up is active till all the free spots in each group are taken. Minimum 8, maximum 32, average 16. Ondo can choose the number of spots in each group and change it in progress of sign up.

Videos

* Your online battle videos have to show only your run for the competition, performed by yourself.
* Videos should be in a quality, so the run is totally clear for the viewers.
* No slow motion, looping and other effects are allowed. Zooming in to make the view clear is allowed.
* Editing, changing views, in a middle of a trick is not allowed.
* Videos can be edited, they don't have to be one shot filmed.
* Tricks should be in frame from start to end. Any trick out of the frame doesn't count.
* Battle runs have to be filmed in the period from sign up start till round finish. Material filmed before the existing round isn't allowed.
* Run length shouldn't be longer than the limit in each -final.
* If the video has a title, then it can be longer as the title length.
* The video should be uploaded in easy viewable media sites and the video settings have to be set to public view.
* After the battle, the videos should be left online for viewing purposes.
* It is advisable to send the video in before the battle, to make things faster. In this case, the video can be private, but on call should be made public.
* If video contains mistakes, it is possible to re-post it, if the battle period is still active.
* If the rider don't want to or can't re-post it, if ondo allows the fact, video can be used in battle, but judges take the violations in consideration.
* The run can be few seconds longer, if the longest combo is on beginning and there are no short tricks, that could be deleted.
* Each battle video must be different. Only beginners can repeat their single tricks and combos. Adding a variation or a link to a combo, counts as a new combo. Run variation is the main goal.
* Ondo has the right to allow the use of extra seconds or other reasons and not to accept it in case of breaking rules.
* Quarter-, semi- and final rounds add more time limit to the run length, it depends on class. These limits are posted in the given class topic.

Battles

* Ondo announces a battle between 2 or 3 riders. From that moment riders have a amount of time - 4 days (if not announced different) to send his run to ondo.
* Exact time is visible on the announcement post, so it's clear how much time is left. (ondo is on GMT +2 time zone)
* Extra time or other period variations are possible only with the permission by ondo.
* When ondo has both videos, they are posted on the first and last post of the particular class thread & poll and judge voting is opened.
* Poll votes are just for viewers and don't take any part in the battle result.
* Winner of each battle is determined by judge votes.
* If a rider doesn't post his video or is disqualified, the other rider still has to post his run and take a uncontested win. If it's in a situation of a top 3 battle, then the inactive rider recieves 3rd place.
* If a rider takes an uncontested win, he can repeat the same combos as in the uncontested battle won. Only with ondo's permission the rider can use the same material from the uncontested battle.
* Ondo has the rights to follow on with the next battle if some of the judges are late and the result by votes is already clear.
* When the winner is announced, next battle period begins.
* If a Round is sponsored TOP 3 places of each class recieve prizes.

Judges

* Judges have to give their vote as soon as battle videos are posted.
* The vote should be posted on the particular class thread.
* Puting the vote bold and adding explanantion would be even better.
* Judges have to give their explanantions if asked.
* Judges have to take in consideration video rule violations and repeating tricks or combos.
* If a battle is between 3 riders, judges have to post their TOP 3.
* Judges must base their votes not just on the riders run in the current battle, but taking previous runs into consideration, since variety and progression is the main key of the contest.
* If a judge can't do his job on a time period, he should contact ondo in advance.
* Judge personal can change.
* Judges recieve a reserved spot in the class they enter and can send the qualification video only when their first battle starts.

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 07:52:49 PM »
« Last Edit: May 11, 2013, 07:54:23 PM by ondo »

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 04:49:34 PM »

Good to see this back,
Everything seems fine except: " The video will be used in the first battle. Rider can't change the content of it anymore. "  this should and could be easily improved.


What happens when a rider signs up early and say the sign up period lasts maybe 2 months (for example)?  The last riders to sign up have some real advantage say 2 months extra practice and film time.  People will just wait the longest possible time and everything will just take ages besides the obvious advantages/disadvantages for some within the class.


How about riders send sign up videos but they're able to send an updated video (2 months practice is lots of progression time for some), besides if the rider don't send an updated video, the rider is already in the right class + there's a useable video in so no delays or problems in the actual battles.


For the judges the perk would be not having to send a sign up/class selection video, they still get the well deserved reserved spot, and to send updated video as they normally would, still keeping the perk for being a judge.  Not to mention even playing field all riders in that particular judge's class. 


Whats the original idea behind no changing content?  Amped perk for judges so they would be more inclined to take the job?

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 11:34:33 PM »
Good point, thanks for the feedback!


The qualification video shouldn't be changed because it's not fair in the way if you find out other riders qualification video and decide that you should film something better or else you're out.. also that brings more problems for me to check all the videos and updates.


if the sign up takes a lot of time, of course, an edit for the qualification video will be possible.

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2013, 12:44:22 PM »
Come on guys, lets make this thing happen once again !

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2013, 04:00:46 PM »
Come on guys, lets make this thing happen once again !
Think you post it in the wrong Forum should have post it in the where the online battles at!

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 04:26:49 AM »
" I hope that everyone is back to riding from the wintertime and ready to progress. Bikes all dialed and new tricks in the bag! "

-its been 2 years since the first battle! ..well, ive got no new tricks dialed due to work and frustrations, but ill join anyway.. maybe this could cheer me up a bit
::)
« Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 04:28:31 AM by Ginman »

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 03:42:31 PM »
SWEET!

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2013, 06:02:46 PM »
I really wish I could join since I've been riding a bit, but I don't think I can with my work schedule putting me out of town at really odd times for weeks on end. :(

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 04:08:32 PM »
SO UP FOR THIS AGAIN!  ;D

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 08:25:10 PM »
3700+ views for the sign up and not many participants? Yooo isn't anyone riding at all?


Send the video in, we can make at least 8 rider classes!


Have fun !

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 06:57:37 AM »
i will join again.  ;D already filming.  O0
« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 07:33:26 AM by paulophilippines »

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 08:54:38 AM »

The qualification video shouldn't be changed because it's not fair in the way if you find out other riders qualification video and decide that you should film something better or else you're out.. also that brings more problems for me to check all the videos and updates.
Ondo, is your qualification video public?  If not then you are making an exception for yourself that is not fair (you get to see other master class riders videos but they can't see yours).

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Re: FLAT BATTLES 2013 / #7 SIGN UP OPEN
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 09:23:52 AM »
This is cool yeah!